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Nova

When one does business, it helps to learn one’s market. When one does business internationally, there are problems if one doesn’t understand the language or the culture of the foreign country in which one wants to sell a product. There’s just such a story about Chevrolet, who learned that they couldn’t sell a car called Nova within Spanish-speaking countries. Why? Because no va, in Spanish, is doesn’t go. Not exactly the best name for a car, right?

Well, I digress. It’s just I think of that story when I ponder the situation I find myself in.

My boat won’t move. Well, if I had wind, and pushed it out of the slip, it might. But, as it is now, it can’t be propelled.

The engine isn’t working. And it happened all of a sudden. Looking back at this blog, you can see that the last trip I took out was my solo adventure in October. At that time, the engine was working perfectly. But I went out to the boat about mid-January, on one of those rare sorta-warm days, when my children happened to be in town. And it wouldn’t start. It tried to turn over, but never caught.

So I had the mechanic at the marina take a look. He couldn’t get it to start either. The marina owner said he’d have a look. But, after about 3 weeks, he never got the opportunity, so I asked the guy who’d originally inspected the engine to take a look. Well, by misting it with oil, he got to start, but he said it made an awful racket when it did. He said the engine was dead. He said that he could turn the ?? (don’t remember what) and there was no resistance. He said that meant that there was not compression.

I called and talked to him. Told him that didn’t make any sense, since it had run perfectly the last time. So he said he’d take another look. His thoughts:

As we discussed, m opinion of why your engine is not starting is that there is insufficient compression to support diesel combustion. This condition is readily apparent when the engine is “barred’ through several revolutions at the flywheel and there is, virtually, no “push back” of the pistons as they roll through each compression stroke. I realize that the engine was starting without apparent problems before you laid the yacht up for winter. The contributing causes to lack of compression may be that the piston rings have retracted or seized into their lands (grooves) and are not sealing against the cylinder walls. I have seen this condition before when moisture has found its way into the engine and allowed light rust to “stick” the piston rings in place. From lookng at the engine, it’s also clear that a major overheating event occurred in the recent past. This may have also caused the piston rings to lose their temper or “spring” and contributed to this condition.

More than likely, since the engine has been sitting without starting for some months, any oil that served to seal the piston rings to the cylinder walls in the past has drained into the crakcase, again with associated loss of compression.

As we discussed, my prognosis for this engine is not promising. I suggest that you confirm my diagnosis with actual compression testing of each cylinder with a diesel compression gauge. Any diesel mechanic should be abe to do this for you. Removing the glow plugs and putting some oil into the cylinders via the glow plug holes may fee the rings if they are, in fact, mildly seized in their grooves. Oil may also seal the pistons against the cylinders to the point of improving comprssion to a level that will support diesel ignition. If this is the case, you may find that the engine will start with some reliability if done so every few days such that oil remains “captured” along the cylinder walls and piston rings. I had a Perkins like this that ran on for years but if we let it sit for longer than about a week without starting we would have to open the injectors and squire a few drops of oil into the cylinders.

My hope is that the rings in your engine are, simply mildly stuck in their grooves and that oil and rotation will free them. Of course, I could have complete misdiagnosed this situation and I’ll be happy to learn if this is the case when a mechanic can report back with actual compression reading on each cylinder. The should be about 390 PSI per cylinder.

So, I relayed my conversation to the marina owner. His response:

Before you spend any money on the engine let me think about other causes. I have never heard of all rings “STICKING” at the same time and I was hoping it was an air problem. If it started after misting the cylinders it should start with diesel. Some times the engine will allow cooling water to enter the cylinders through an exhaust valve during engine shutdown so removing the injectors and soaking the cylinders may be the best option now.

And, when lamenting my situation to Dan, he talked with his dad, who knows a thing or two about diesel engines, he, too, thought it presumptive to say the engine was dead. His ideas:

It seems very unlikely that all the rings would stick at once. And I’m not sure that would cause this problem. Now, if all the valves were stuck open, that would make more sense as that would cause a complete lack of compression. But that seems unlikely as well.

Later:

Hey, I talked to my dad and he agrees that it is most likely stuck valves. It should be pretty easy to check by pulling the valve cover and turning the engine over to see if they aren’t coming up all the way.

Dan offered to help me pull off the valve cover to take a look and see what was going on. And that would, I’m sure, save me a bit of money. My concern is that I’d have an engine apart that I really didn’t know how to repair, not that I don’t think I could figure it out. But, between school and work, I wouldn’t have time to do it.

So, for now, I’ll let the folks at the marina see if they can figure it out. They said the first thing they’d do is check the injectors. We’ll see what happens.

Worse comes to worse, I’ll get an outboard again and use that until I can get the engine fixed or 🙁 replaced.

Wasting Money

The lower Chesapeake Bay is a great place to have a boat; you can sail almost all year long. But the weekend weather hasn’t cooperated the past few weekends. It’s been rainy or too windy to feel ‘safe’. But there are other things to write about, such as money spent before research was done on purchases for the boat. And that’s not smart, since unwise purchases can be expensive.

I don’t have alot of upper body strength. That being said, when the mainsail came with no winch, I put that on the list of things to purchase. And I did, for about $125 at the local used boating supplies store. Well, with all the other stuff I got done and spent money on in the winter and fall, the winch never did get installed. Now, at the end of the summer, I have developed a bit of upper body strength and have no problems hoisting the main myself. So, get rid of the winch, right? Well, I can get about 1/4 that for it on eBay. Ah well!

The compass onboard when I purchased the boat had no liquid in it. Filling it would cost about $150, for which I could buy a new one. So I did, using the dimensions the marine mechanic gave me. Afterwards, I found out that the previous (or a previous) owner had created a tube to stick on top of the pedestal to hold the compass. But there was no way to attach the compass; the old one had just been dropped into the tube. I’d already thrown out the receipt by the time I’d figured this out. So I did sell this one on eBay (at a loss, of course) and bought one with housing.

So now I’m trying to figure out how to get the new compass installed. Problem with this one? The bolts holding the wooden plate in place at the top of the steering column are just inside where the holes for the much smaller screw holes are in the compass housing. Well, I think I can get it in by cutting holes in the housing in order to get the bolts in place. But hopefully, this, too, wasn’t a waste of money.

The rubber/plastic(?) gasket on the top of my Anderson winches had cracked. One of my crew thought it a good idea to remove it for me. It was cracked, after all, right? Nope. That rubber was allowing the mechanism to turn correctly. So I put the broken pieces back in and purchased a maintenance kit for the winch. The picture online looked like it had what I needed. Wrong. It didn’t. So I called the supplier. What I was needing was a spring. Why it’s called a spring when it doesn’t look like a slinky, I don’t know. But that’s what it’s called. So I bought two, one for each winch, to the tune of $40 apiece! Ouch! For a piece of molded plastic! Luckily, this did do the trick!

Lesson learned. Figure out if you really need it. And, if so, do some careful research to make sure what you buy is what you need!

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Repairs and Other Lessons

Okay, so, after the last disastrous time out on the water, the weather was looking crappy for the next week. So I asked the boat yard to pull her out of the water and do the repairs I needed: get the bottom painted, rebed the chainplates, repair the soft spot in the deck, and remove the outboard engine. All those were large jobs, and I really felt it better to have someone else tackle them.

The soft spot on the deck, the inspector figured, was probably due to leaks from the chainplates being repaired poorly. I could see that, since there was some awful goo around them. Looking at it myself, though, I wondered if the leak into the hull was from the pump-out, since it was right beside the soft spot. I learned later that that was an after-market add-on. In the days when this boat was manufactured everything went over the side, including the offal from the loo.

So, Mike, the mechanic, went to start on the repair. He began by trying to release the pressure in the pumpout so he could remove the pipes. Well, luckily, he didn’t get a face full of goo, but he did get a squirt from the pipe that he didn’t expect.

Well, those who’ve read the other posts in this blog know that my times on the boat have been less than ideal. I really did did intend to empty the tank from the loo. It just hadn’t worked out that way.

So, the repair waited.

In the meantime, my budget was starting to show strain. So I asked Mike, the mechanic, if he felt the chainplates really needed to be rebedded (about a $2000 proposition). He didn’t think so, since he saw now evidence of leaks from them within the cabin. But, he said he’d take a closer look when he got the deck peeled back.

Also, in the meantime, Steve (of our last, fateful, voyage), offered to help me fix the blisters on the bottom. He also suggested that painting it wasn’t as arduous a task as I thought. So I told the yard I’d take care of that.

Sense is starting to win out over money. Well, starting. 😀

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Sticker Shock

Well, repairs are underway and I’m having sticker shock!

There were certain things that needed to be taken care of that I didn’t think I was quite ready to handle, so I’m having them done before I take the boat out. The general repairs were about what I expected. But that soft spot on the deck was more extensive that we originally thought and that’s going to be a killer to cover!

Sorry Megan and Lissa – not only will I have to sell my firstborn, but my second born, too, to pay for it.

Not really. But, well, I did know I was buying a sink hole.

🙁

It’ll all be worth it!

Good news was that the steering column isn’t as bad as we thought. That is, the fiberglass around it is sound, so that will just require replacing the backing plate, not repairing the deck as well.

It’ll be a week or two before the plumbing and electrical work is done. In the meantime, I’ll see if I can get a better price on the fiberglass (deck) work.

I did get some pics of the boat before the work started. I’ll add to it as things are getting done:

 

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